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OCTOBER 28, 2008
Does the travel industry have a responsibility to monitor the financial stability of host agencies such as TravelStar/JoyStar, the controversial Aliso Viejo, CA, agency? Peter Stilphen, president of Coral Sands Travel, for one, believes it must. Not only because hundreds of independent agents, employees and suppliers may be involved in a collapse, but also because the industry has a responsibility to police itself.
In an interview with Travel Agent, Stilphen urged the Professional Association of Travel Hosts (PATH) to get more involved and urged that all segments of the industry wok together to “tighten up the rules and improve standards.”
“PATH, which represents many of the mainstream host agencies, should be the leader in improving standards. To date, they have been too quiet,” Stilphen said, noting that he was a founding member and past president of PATH (At press time, PATH was expected to issue a statement clarifying its position on TravelStar, which is not a PATH member).
"JoyStar may be gone," Stilphen noted, citing TravelStar/JoyStar’s losses, but the “larger multilevel marketing firms are still there and pose even a greater problem for the travel industry down the road.” Stilphen is so convinced of TravelStar/JoyStar’s early demise that he is exploring a class-action lawsuit against TravelStar/JoyStar.
“We are creating a list of JoyStar affiliated agents who have not been paid commissions for an attorney considering a class-action lawsuit against TravelStar, JoyStar, Bill Alverson (TravelStar’s president), et al,” said Stilphen. Any agent who may wish further information or would like to be a part of this lawsuit should e-mail Peter Stilphen at liberty3675@embarqmail.com with their name, contact info and amount claimed.
“Your name will be turned over to the attorney handling the case and his office will be in touch with you. Your information will remain confidential and will be used for the purpose of determining whether a lawsuit is the proper way to go,” Stilphen, a consistent critic of TravelStar/JoyStar’s business model, said.
“We have a situation where many JoyStar travel agents will not be paid their commissions,” he alleged. “Many of these agents are still unaware of the JoyStar disaster and should be notified in order that they may address their particular situation with the company. In addition, a total collapse of the host agency JoyStar will have effects on other host agencies and should also be addressed by them.”
Stilphen continued: “Many travel agents may lose their hard-earned commissions. It could have been a lot worse if some of us said nothing. At least some of the agents believed what I have been saying for four years and took steps to limit the damage.” TravelStar/JoyStar has claimed as many as 1,500 agents.
“It was never about being a competitor because my company was also a host agency,” Stilphen said. “We were a totally different animal than the multifaceted TravelStar (JoyStar). It was always about a flawed JoyStar business model that was doomed from the beginning.” Stilphen also recently formed STARS, a trade group to encourage professionalism.
“I'm sure we have not heard the final chapter from JoyStar and the misadventures of its CEO. It is now up to my fellow host agencies to come forward with a plan to help these JoyStar agents who are out commissions. I have done so on my own website at www.coralsandstravel.com,” he said. Alverson recently admitted to Travel Agent that TravelStar/JoyStar has had problems, but denied that it was the end of the company.
On September 24, Alverson released double-digit percentage increases in sales from eight suppliers. "Sales for 2008 have been substantially higher than we had earlier expected,” he said. “Beginning in the fourth quarter of last year, in anticipation of a slowdown, we implemented a major initiative to reduce fixed costs to weather the storm. We also curtailed our advertising spending, making the growth we are seeing even more impressive.” (The last released posited at www.travelstar.com is dated April 25, 2008.)
“While vacation sales are up and confidence remains high, we too have felt the effects of a volatile stock market. The company's share price fell off sharply recently and it was confirmed yesterday that a distressed hedge fund was forced to liquidate its holdings, including its entire position of TravelStar, because it could not meet a margin call,” Alverson said.
"This is an example of the far-reaching implications of the market we are in right now. It affects all of us in many ways and you must have the fortitude and ability to navigate turbulent waters and look for the new opportunities being created. Our business model was designed for bad economic times. A slowdown in the travel industry in general forces agency owners to look for every possible way to gain efficiencies. Partnering with a host travel agency is becoming increasingly popular and continues to be the major driver of Travelstar's organic growth," Alverson said, confirming in a subsequent interview that TravelStar’s problems were temporary.
Stilphen’s take is different, especially in view of a lawsuit filed by Six Continents Hotels Inc. against JoyStar in federal court for the Northern District in Atlanta on October 15 for fraud. “The ‘fat lady’ is now singing, “ Stilphen said. “It's all over but the formal announcement…At this point, divine intervention nor actually renewing the Florida Seller of Travel license and being reinstated by CLIA (which recently terminated its JoyStar/TravelStar membership) would make much difference. Most of their producing travel agents have already moved over to new host agencies. Coral Sands Travel signed up over 15 good producing agents while TPI and GTM certainly signed up a bunch along with others.
“Who do we blame for all this? I blame some of the media, a couple of the travel agent organizations and a few overly protective suppliers, all with the same reasons for supporting this obvious ‘con’ for the last four years. It was all about revenue dollars without applying ethics. I call it greed," Stilphen said.
Is Stilphen correct? Who should be responsible for watch-dogging TravelStar/JoyStar? Or YTB International? Is it the responsibility of an individual agent such as Stilphen, who has arguably taken a gutsy stand at some personal risk? Or should trade associations, the media or consortia bear some responsibility? And what about the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), which monitors publicly held companies such as TravelStar? Certainly TravelStar/JoyStar’s management has a responsibility to communicate accurately and responsibly.
Please let us know what you think by posting your comment below.
By: George Dooley
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It's really pathetic that the main antagonist in this entire saga is the owner of a competitive host agency that claims the Joystar model isn't viable. Why isn't it viable, Peter? Is it because they're not as greedy as you are and milk the agents on every booking commission like you do? Let's face it, you're not here trying to help anyone but yourself. All you're after is a cut of bookings already placed for which you DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO EARN. You're pathetic.
Joystar is gone. I too was in contact with them up until Nov 2008 and then nothing. They still owe me a commission check and I know I will never see it. There should absolutely be some oversight on these types of companies. The reasons that sgants like me join is because we are to small on our own - that works against us twice as now what do I do? Nothing.
We need a big organization to monitor a big company. Many agents are out of thousands and thousands of dollars. I'm sure some agents aren't even fully aware of what is going on. It wasn't until December that I really started thinking something was amiss with Joystar because that's when all contact ceased. Now I'm finding these articles and I see that I am far from alone.
Everyone on here that is defending Joystar / Travelstar will look like a fool in another 30 days. Joystar / Travelstar will fold, you will lose your money, you will be humiliated and go through the loss process of anger, denial, acceptance etc. The leaders of joystar are merely looking for a big stock payday, once they realize that will not happen (they have realized it) they will fold, its as true as the sun shinning tomorrow, did you not read the "Factual History of Joystar" its all true: http://homebasedtravelagentsblog.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/10/the-rise-and-fall-of-joysta r-an-mlm-and-the-potential-fallout.html
Since they will not be able to con new investors they will run out of money in a few weeks or as long as they can string along anyone who they owe money too. If you have a chance to get ANYTHING from them take it and run.
BB
I spoke with CLIA today. They have reinstated Joystar as of 2 weeks ago. I am a Joystar agent, and have not been paid my Oct 31, check.
I emailed Kathy West kathy@travelstar.com and received no reply. I asked about our E & O Insurance. I asked where were our commissions. I asked for CLARIFICATION, of all the rumors. I asked about why our bank was frozen. As a commission agent, THIS IS MY MONEY and my fellow agents Money. All I got from Joystar was congratulations on buying a house, but it wont be good if I cant get paid. Joystar agents should email kathy west, and find out whats going on. Inundate her email, AND DOCUMENT EVERYTHING.
Fresh out of more "reasonable explainations" Peter?
Peter,
You want the 100% commission program to end because it is in direct competition with your 80% commission program.
If the 100% commission program program is a success, why would any Travel Agent want to allign with you.
It is in your best interest to work for the destruction of Joystar. You and other industry leaders that support your view.
I can't believe that no one else can see this.
If and when Joystar does go down, I can assure you that the one agency I WILL NOT associate my self with is Coral Sands Travel.
Hello new agent to the industry 2years and counting. Please lets stop all this mudsling its very bad for business. Yes things are not how we all would like but why are they some so adamant on seeing someone fail (Joystar). Lets remember why we are in this business to sell travel.
I have been a Joystar agent for 2+ years & have over 14 years total under my belt. I am also way under age 50 (thank you very much).
First of all, my question to Peter Stilphen & all other anti-Joystar folks is, where was the proof?? All you have ever come up with is "Joystar is an MLM or a cardmill" but you offered no facts. I know for a FACT that I am a real travel agent, so I was being called something I wasn't. Don't just tell me, SHOW ME. Otherwise, how can I believe?
I have not been paid any commissions for the month of October & Joystar owes me over $3,000 to date. I have another $3,000 in commissions due before the end of the year which I doubt I will ever see. I have received sporadic e-mails from various employees telling me that Joystar is not going anywhere & to be patient. I was also told my check would be in the mail yesterday 10-31. No check arrived today & I live about 2 hours north of Joystar's offices. So, I wait. I blame no one but those in charge.
Peter you obvioulsy didnt do your homework just like Darlene. I've been to the Joystar office and I know for a fact that the former suite is directly across the hall from the new one and the suit number did not change. There is no possible way to not find suite 100. Not to mention the old suite is occupied and the new tennants didnt move in yesterday!
This is not really the forum for discussing the Joystar fiasco other than responding to this article.
Darlene is not making up stories as she actually went to find JoyStar's office but found their old office instead of the one they moved to in the same building. Your comments over host agencies fighting over "VALID" agents doesn't make sense. These JoyStar agents must attempt to find a place to move their bookings to, if they can to maintain the higher commissions.
Jackie is correct about establishing better Host Agency standards. As far as I'm concerned the 100% commission programs should be dropped and each Host should set aside a % of the vendor commissions in a trust account for the agents commissions.
I don't agree with "sadly watching". The average age of an agent has been decreased in recent years with new, younger ones coming on board every day.
I wish some of your commentors would leave a real name.