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Analyzing Legal Action Against YTB, Impact on Agents

YTB International, based in Wood River, IL, has the dubious distinction of being one of the most controversial companies in the industry and the target of sharp, often vitriolic, criticism from many agents. The recent legal action by the California Attorney General and a new class- action lawsuit filed in Illinois underscores this.

The accusations against YTB range from being a multilevel marketing (MLM) plan focused on network building rather than the sale of travel to being a card mill that encourages YTB agents to scoop up free or reduced travel. Charges that YTB is also an illegal pyramid scheme are commonplace. Its critics see YTB as a scam for the unwary seeking free travel benefits.

Suppliers are routinely criticized for supporting YTB, and praised when they punish YTB. The YTB business model is held out by many agents as an example of what a travel company should not be. YTB agents, it’s charged, pass themselves off as professional agents, earning the anger and frustration of veteran agents with vast expertise and professional credentials.

Despite this criticism, YTB has survived—at least until the California action. And YTB can be expected to defend itself against the charges. The reality is that YTB has been moving aggressively to carve out a strong, arguably profitable, market position in the travel industry— critics be damned. Often, YTB has gained the support of industry suppliers who want YTB’s business.

In an interview with Travel Agent prior to the California Attorney General's lawsuit, J. Kim Sorensen, YTB’s founder and president, admitted that YTB’s business model was controversial but frequently misunderstood. Multilevel marketing isn’t illegal (pyramid schemes are), he noted, urging agents to understand the difference.

Sorensen sees YTB’s model as being radically different from “traditional” brick-and-mortar agencies or host agencies. YTB sells travel via a 140,000-member network of Referring Travel Agents (RTAs) primarily via websites. RTAs direct consumers to the websites. Sorensen sees YTB’s power in attracting new entrants to the industry.

YTB International has three distinct components, Sorensen notes, including REZConnect Technologies, YTB Travel Network and YTB’s referral arm YourTravelBiz.com. Combined, YTBI has reported year-over-year growth and ended 2007 with a $3.2 million net profit on revenues of $141 million. Also significant, to Sorensen, is YTB’s tracking of the aggregate retail value of all travel services sold by its RTA’s websites. YTBI reported a 2007 gain of 84 percent to $414.5 million from $225.7 million in 2006.

While reporting a loss of $3.5 million for the first quarter of 2008, total revenues increased to $42.7 million for the quarter. Sorensen also noted that YTB paid its reps and RTAs more than $65 million in combined marketing and travel commissions through the third quarter of 2007.

Combined, YTB’s performance is strong enough to allow YTB’s stock to be traded Over-The-Counter (OTBBB) with all the transparency that a public company is required to deliver.

In the interview, Sorensen expressed frustration with the criticism that agents leveled at YTB. YTB agents are getting the recognition from where it counts: industry suppliers who are benefiting from YTB’s marketing and sales clout, he argues.

“There has been some progress in turning YTB’s image around," Sorensen said. "We are working all the time to get better. We have guaranteed issue health insurance for RTAs, including company-paid major medical and life insurance for RTAs with commission income of $25,000.  We are developing our own Travel Agent Certification program. Our training is expanding all the time. As long as we recruit large numbers of part-timers, a certain group out there will not like YTB.”

YTB’s expansion is critically important to Sorensen and CEO Scott Tomer. One example is a recently signed agreement with the Kansas City Chiefs to market travel services to Chiefs fans.  Sorensen credits YTB’s RTAs for the "touchdown": “We have been working on this for more than a year," he said. "And there are other teams and high-profile organizations in the pipeline.”

Another example of expansion is YTB’s entry into Canada. In March, YTB acquired Sunrise Travel Services in Ontario, and Sorensen sees real growth opportunities. YTB had also expanded in the Bahamas and Bermuda.

YTB is also breaking new ground in online education and training of its agents, and in developing group travel capabilities. It has also developed a strong approach to niche markets—honeymoon, golf, fishing and hunting among them.

Sorensen believes groups are a vital part of YTB’s planning. New agreements have been signed with tour operators to give RTAs access to the European market and China. “Groups would be our true specialty," he said. "We are uniquely positioned because of our people. Every RTA that joins YTB is a group waiting to happen with some training. I think our group department is what we will ultimately be known for."

While declining to discuss the appointment of Bob Dickinson, Carnival’s respected former CEO, to YTB’s board and Dickinson’s subsequent decision not to accept the post (allegedly due to agent animosity to YTB), Sorensen believes that the industry is learning slowly to accept the YTB business model.

“We are not a card mill," Sorensen said. "But we are a perfectly legitimate multilevel travel-marketing firm that is moving supplier products and putting money into the pockets of our agents. We are competitive, to be sure. But we are also productive and increasingly professional, we are also investing in the future of our agents.” This includes a new booking tool to be introduced later this year.

Sorensen is bullish on 2008, in part because YTB can expand into non-travel areas—a move that infuriates professional agents. “The future looks very bright to us," he said. "And there are other areas where we can expand. YTB doesn’t only sell travel. We are becoming a major retailer of flowers, gifts and other widely consumed products. We have just introduced YTB Cars, for example.”

Sorensen does not mind when RTAs are called  “hobbyists,” as a recent research study did. “I would agree that many of our RTAs are hobbyists," he said. "I don’t see anything wrong with that. We have people at all levels of proficiency from spare-time to part-time to full-time pros. We don’t have quotas and we don’t fire people for lack of production. We have people that start as hobbyist and later become producers.

“The YTB business model is proving itself in a very competitive marketplace," he added.  He also notes that YTB is considering a move to becoming a franchise operation, a decision that could mitigate some of the criticisms of YTB.

Where do travel agents stand? The industry remains divided. Many will wait to see how the court cases against YTB go. But it will be the individual professional agents exerting pressure on suppliers and associations that may prove decisive.

The court actions against YTB may spark a fire to end abuses of card mills and barely legal marketing schemes. It will also force agents, suppliers, associations and consortia to ask what kind of an industry they want to see emerge.




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  • JJ (SEPTEMBER 15, 2008)

    Since this article was written new allegations have come out against Coach and YTB including the Meridian Bank, YTB's bank issuing a cease & desist order. Apparently, there are some questionable loans involving Coach and the Bank. It has also come to light Coach was involved in a scam selling shares in Elvis's plane the Lisa Marie & selling a worthless gas additive. I can't believe that some people in the industry including suppliers still defend them after 1 AG suit, 2 class action suits, 1 federal suit, investigation by the IL AG and a negative rating by the BBB.

  • DAB (AUGUST 19, 2008)

    To Nicole: As a former YTB RTA and now independent travel consultant I ask you. Why would you want to work for 60% commission when there are so many host agencies paying higher commissions? In addition, please go into your Back Office and click Documents, then review the Policies/Procedures, Protect Your Business and Terms/Conditions. You will note that RTA's are not allow to accept their clients credit cards and various other "rules" that limits access to the industry and your business. If you have a client interested in sailing on Royal Car, Celebrity, Azmara you will not be able to book their travel. YTB has a very limited amount of preferred suppliers. You and your mom would do so much better as independent contactors with a host agency.

  • Nicole (AUGUST 19, 2008)

    As the daughter of a woman who spent 25 years in the travel industry I can say one thing about YTB...They treat us with respect and I know by experience as i'm an RTA for them. My mom has been countlessly screwed over by companies such as Navigant and Carlson Wagonlit. With low salaries,high quotas & little perks the industry continues to treat its valued Agents like dirt. YTB has treated me with the utmost respect and has handled any situation with the highest of integrity. My mom has decided to leave Carlson as she can no longer take the constant abuse and stress offered by the so-called professional Agencies. She plans to take the summer off...and then join YTB! So to all you professionals out there...instead of mocking YTB for being new & different. Why don't you take a look at YTB and offer to teach them how to do things better and finally be treated fairly instead of continuing to work for companies that don't care whether you exist or not.

  • Jess Kalinowsky Professional Travel Agent (AUGUST 17, 2008)

    With 140,000 travel agents they should be producing like the mega agencies such as American Express and Carlson! Even if 1/4 of them are "producing" they would be an enormous force in the travel industry. They are not producing millions upon millions of dollars! A conservative estimate for a normal travel agency employee, just to keep their job, they have to produce a million dollars a year. Two million is usually desired. YTB simply is not producing that kind of money. I say SHAME on the vendors allowing it to happen! I say shame on ARC + IATAN + USTOA for allowing it to happen. I understand thy had BIG numbers of attendees at their most recent convention, well DUH! You get a free trip to some cool destination, who would not go! SHAME on the Davidoff's and Mancini for prostituting their services, just for the sake of a BUCK! SHAME SHAME SHAME! Let's see what Jerry Brown will do to them in California, and now their own home state Attorney General on them!

  • Liz Williams (AUGUST 15, 2008)

    There are some serious problems with YTB. You have to be a RTA ($49)a month in order to sell travel though they say you can be a REP at no cost. This is not YTB's agenda.  They want you to sell membership in YTB. If it were not so, they would let REPs sell travel. REPs can only sell YTB. It is bad enough that you can not send any of your clients to the website with out giving them a road map on how to get around the barge of why you sould be a YTB agent.(Very messy website. (Not sleek or clean) I really like to know why Royal Caribbean Cruise refuse to let YTB agents sell travel>(hMMMmmmmmm). A lot of us came to YTB because of the pitch our Team Leader gave, using the man-of-God angle; No entry fee if you are coming from an agency that you were vested in; So suppose to be a better company. Those of you staying with YTB, more power to you. But what I see, those who are making the money are those who had down lies that came on board with them.

  • Nelson Fowlkes (AUGUST 14, 2008)

    Professional Travel Consultant/Agents must acquire product and servcie knowlesge in order to successful gain the trust of their clients. These sellers of travel expend considerable time, energy and resources acquiring this information.
    In my view, a finders fee is just compensation for a referral or lead that is provided to the Seller of Travel.

  • Dee Dee (AUGUST 14, 2008)

    So, in essence what I am saying is this. Before you get involved with a company, thoroughly review the 4 walls of the contract. What has happened in this case is people not understanding the bus. model and jumping head first into the opportunity. The people that had a clear understanding of the bus. is not filing lawsuits. If I was council on this case, I would require they bring me HARD PROOF of claims and proof of their efforts to market, and grow their business. GET IT TOGETHER PEOPLE, though Donald Trump & dr. Kiyosaki said MLM is the way to make enormous income for the average person, we ALL KNOW ONLY 2% OF THE POPULATION WILL DO WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE IT. They prefer to be apart of the 40/40 club. (40 hrs a week, for 40 yrs of their life, making somebody else rich). The business works, you just did not WORK FOR YOUR BUSINESS. LET'S JUST BE TRUTHFUL HERE. 

    God Bless all of you.

  • Dee Dee (AUGUST 14, 2008)

    I normally do not waste my time on blogs. Usually I am busy making money but what has been puzzling to me is the many people that have a comment about the business that does not concern them. See, That's what's wrong with us as a people, always having something to say but issues they have not researched..For many years, I have studied the economy, trendsetters, and litigation of them. And if you are educated in the law of the land in any form, you realize that when trendsetters are born and take the business of traditional business, litigation is inevitable. Ex. Do you remember when Mary Kay & Avon came on the scene with high sells, they took alot of bus. from Estee Lauder, Fashion Fair, etc. Dept store companies and people where filing suits like crazy. Same thing with Wal-Mart becoming Super Walmart taking the income from smaller grocery chains. Let us not even talk about Microsoft being sued by the UNITED STATES GOVT. for monopolizing the industry, yet, they are here today.

  • Tom (AUGUST 14, 2008)

    One last comment on network marketing. To the mlm/network marketing haters. Would you not say that doctors, some of whom are world renowned; lawyers, judges, CPA's, engineers, senators,corp. executives, pilots, professional athletes, former olympic champions and other "professionals" are well educated? Well these are some of the "DUMB" people that you will find in network marketing. What do Donald Trump, multi-millionaire Robert Kiyosaki, best selling author and financial expert David Bach and Professor Paul Zane Pilzer who was an advisor to two White House administrations have in common? They all recommend NWM. But it doesn't mean it's for everyone.

  • Tom (AUGUST 14, 2008)

    To all the mlm skeptics I ask; what does Warren Buffett and Richard Branson who are some of the most successfull businessmen have in common? They own network marketing (NWM) companies. What's the difference between mlm and NWM? Nothing except that mlm refers to how a company pays someone, ie on multiple levels where as NWM is the business model or structure of the company. Pyramid? What's that? Take a look at any company and who is at the top making all the money? The employees? No, the CEO then the Sr. VP, VP's, Mangagers, Supervisors and finally at the bottom the subordinates as some upper management call their employee's. Companies leverage off the efforts of their employee's where in a NWM company, you can leverage your efforts with others.

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