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YTB Will Face Court Action

Travel agents concerned with the future of YTB Inc. and its impact on the travel industry will have to wait until September when, reportedly, the lawsuit by California’s state Attorney General against YTB will be heard in a Los Angeles court.

The State’s attorney general filed the suit against YTB in August  2008, alleging that YTB   “operates an unlawful endless chain scheme (pyramid scheme) that relies on untrue and misleading representations and unlawful, unfair, and fraudulent business practices.” This, the state said, includes “violations of laws regulating the sale of seller assisted marketing plans, franchises, and travel discount plans.”

While YTB has remained silent on the charges, as is their right, the issues have special meaning for agents who are also facing the demise of TravelStar/JoyStar which, at press time, may impact scores of agents and at least $350,000 in unpaid commissions. Both Carnival Cruise Lines and Norwegian Cruise Lines have dropped JoyStar. Unlike YTB, however, legal action is being left to individuals.

The basics of the allegations against YTB are worth repeating. The state argued that “While Defendants (YTB) purport to be in the business of selling travel, their real business is the operation of a pyramid scheme that relies on the sale of essentially worthless websites they refer to as “online travel agencies. For the opportunity to own and operate an online travel agency, consumers pay Defendants over $1,000 per year.

“To entice consumers to participate in their scheme, Defendants make untrue or misleading claims that consumers can become millionaires and receive special travel discounts offered only to professional travel agents. However, in 2007, consumers paid over $103 million to Defendants for websites, but made only $13 million in travel commissions in a business Defendants advertised as the “easiest way to make money” and earn 'serious income' without any selling.

“Of the more than 200,000 consumers who purchased or maintained Defendants’ websites during 2007, 62 percent failed to earn a single travel commission—not even on their own personal travel. The typical participant made no money on the sale of travel. Furthermore, the typical annual travel commission earned was less than the cost of just one month for a consumer to maintain his or her website.

“Even among those California residents who participated in Defendants’ program for at least one year from April 1, 2006 to March 31, 2007, and who paid Defendants at least $1,000, 45 percent did not sell any travel and 61 percent made less income on the sale of travel than the cost of one month’s use of their website.

“While the vast majority of consumers made nothing selling travel, Defendants generated 73 percent  of their net revenue of over $141 million dollars from the sale of websites and monthly fees. Another 10 percent was generated through the sale to consumers of training and marketing materials. Only 14.5 percent of Defendants’ net revenue were generated from the sale of travel. In short, Defendants sell an illegal pyramid scheme that uses the minor, incidental sale of travel as a front for their scheme.”

The attorney general asked for a civil penalty of at least $15 million and restitution of least $10 million. YTB’s management has to date declined to comment on the action.




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  • Mary Brown (APRIL 08, 2009)

    Yall can all stop your frettin & postin now. THE LITIGATION ENDED LAST NIGHT AND YTB WON!!!!!

    Those who had already pronounced the benediction and eulogy over our "pyramid" and were only awaiting our demise, might now want to turn their attentions to the truth!

    In the future, don't just look for facts -search for the truth. (They are not always one and the same).

    Cancer is a deadly sickness: fact. But the truth is not everyone with cancer, dies. Some YTB agents may not educate themselves: fact. But the truth is, the training is readily available. It is not YTB's job to force anyone to take advantage of it.

    As quiet as it's kept, all companies (including your's) have slackers on the dole! And anyone, even God (oops, I mean, Bill Gates)can be brought up on legal charges. But never rejoice before the jury is in and the battle is done, least you get BAM...surprised by the rope-a-dope, coup-de-tat!

    Game Over!

    Come on RTA's...Let's go build a

  • Mary p. Henderson (MARCH 30, 2009)

    Well I have been a web site owner for two years. I have worked approximately about 2.5 hrs a week and My income was well over the expense of my travel store. You do have to put a little effert into anything you expect to get paid for.Those who made no money didn't do anything to get any money nor booked any travel on the web site. It's like getting a job and if you don't work to bring forth a reason to be at your job what is the point!! and there should not be any pay

  • Roberto Belen (FEBRUARY 25, 2009)

    I have a brother working with large group of talented lawryers-the minute I told him about my intentitions to join YTB-he was on the phone telling me about the scam.
    To all of the people defending the possition of YTB--sooner or later their will be an end on how many people will join YTB, at that point the "pyramid" can't be sustained any longer and the thousands of "members" at the bottom will be out in the cold.  How long it will last? Lets wait and see. Maybe, the courts will acelarate the process.

  • Laura (FEBRUARY 07, 2009)

    YTB has employed lawyers that ensured their business was "pyramid-proof" long before their legal issues arose. - I don't know of many (if any) network marketing companies that don't pay more (and make more) from the recruiting of new distributors than the sale of their product. YTB anticipated this and they organized their business to stay within the legal limits set by the FTC. - Also consider that they are a publicly traded company and had no intention of trying to hide the fact that they made more money from new distributor websites than the sale of travel. - Again, the travel sales business only makes travel and travel related commissions. - The network marketing business earns their revenue from the sale and hosting of the travel website businesses.

  • Laura (FEBRUARY 07, 2009)

    One thing I would like to point out regarding the lawsuit of YTB is that whether more revenue has come from recruiting or not is irrelevant. - What the AG hasn't addressed (that I know of) is the fact that YTB consists of 3 separate wholly owned subsidiaries. - The company that is selling travel (YTB Travel Network) made no money from selling websites whatsoever. - The company that is selling websites (YourTravelBiz.com Inc) made absolutely nothing from selling travel. - The third company is RezConnect Technologies is the host agency for all the YTB RTA's. - This lawsuit is flawed because the AG is trying to combine the two subsidiary companies alleging that the YTB made more money from one product vs. another when the companies don’t even SELL the same products in the first place.

  • Jeanette (JANUARY 16, 2009)

    Iwould just like to say, I have owned a YTB website for over 3 years. I have only positive things to say about this business opportunity. While it's true, there are some who have chosen not to try to build a business..many of us are looking at this YTB opportunity as a side career and even an opportunity to build a long term career in travel. There is nothing shady about YTB. I have earned and been paid commissions , I have been able to take advantage of the travel perks and most importantly I have had the opportunity to learn and get the education required to run my online travel business. I would just like to add, if YTB is to be labled a pyramid, then so should, Avon, Mary Kay, Tupperware, Pampered Chef, Park Lane Jewerlry and hundreds of other home based business' who operate in the same way. I believe YTB is an opportunity for those of us who love to travel to learn and profit from being a part of an incredible online travel industry.

  • D. Davis (JANUARY 16, 2009)

    You have not ran all the good reports and new record breaking events and contributions YTB makes and all of their new and powerful upgrades including education and not to mention travel sales. This country continually uplifts deadbeats that cannot make a committment to themselves and blame their problems anywhere. Well you should have this magazine on a grocery aisle with the rags that stretch the truth far as possible and if its good news its no news. I agree with another comment Biased and unbalanced poor at best journalism. What will you say to all the hard working people and agents through out the world if and when YTB wins. you failed to mention their acceptance with DSA and how hard it is to get accepted. Matter of fact you kind of just FAIL!!

  • C.Carr (JANUARY 15, 2009)

    those who sign up with ytb or any other enterprise for that matter need to first learn how to market a business. That's what they forget to teach you in registering, they just show you the RTAs that are experienced in marketing and decided to have this business ON THE SIDE since they already had a good well paying job in the first place, and well meaning patrons pay into it monthly.

  • Jon Myers (JANUARY 15, 2009)

    There is so much mis-leading info about YTB out there. The best part of all of this is that YTB will have their day in court to settle the issues. Don't be surprised if YTB walks away with a stronger model and at least some sort of win here.

  • YTB Scams (JANUARY 13, 2009)

    HA! I knew YTB was a scam!

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